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Tepples are you interested too in a composeer ripping himself unintentionally ? I have a few example of Uematsu's who recycled his old songs unintentionally :
Final Fantasy V - Intension of the Earth (from 0:24)
Final Fantasy IX - Kuja's ThemeFinal Fantasy IV - Wolrd MapFinal Fantasy X - Riding Shoopuf[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtGBR80NWw[/url]Final Fantasy VIII - The castle[/url] at 2:12
Final Fantasy X - Brave AdvancementOf course those might have been intentional, but they're probably not.
I think I have about half-a-dozen more in mind, all with Uemastu, so if you are interested just ask.
Go ahead and start a user-space draft of a page about Mr. Uematsu's alleged self-plagiarism.
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EDIT : About the so-called similarity between Robo's theme and Never Gonna give you up, I disagree.
I listened both songs very carefully, I really love both of them but I can say that they aren't similar. It's just a coincidence that playing both at the same time isn't too horrible (what happens if you play two random songs together).
1) The melody is completely different
I agree that the "verse" isn't as strong of an example, but the comparison is between the "chorus" of Robo's theme and instrumental part behind the chorus of NGGYU. Copying a substantial part of a song is still infringement.
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2) The rythm of Never Gonna Give You up is a simple "kick, snare, kick, snare" rythm while the rythm of Robo's theme is more complicated
3) The bassline of Robo's theme is a simple "daa--da-da-daa---da-da-daa....." pattern while the bassline of Never Gonna Give you Up is much more complex
In all the case law I've read, judges have weighed melodic similarities more than drum and bass similarities.
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4) In the end only the chords match more or less, but even then, you notice they aren't completely matching, they don't always change at the same time.
In the melody of the chorus they do.
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Also they editied Robo's them when making it up, if you played the untouched original it would probably not work as well.
When determining similarity, a judge will ignore what key a song is in and how fast it is played. If a whole song needs to be transposed, that's valid. Otherwise, George Harrison wouldn't have got in trouble for "My Sweet Lord", which needs to be played faster and (in the first half) transposed up to match "He's So Fine".
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So I disagree both songs are similar. Considering the incredible amount of songs ever composed by the humanity, there is a extremely high probability that a song will have the same
Exactly my point. The moral of the project is that the case law for copyright in musical works is unworkable in the long term, and the only thing keeping the music industry from suing itself out of existence is a gentleman's agreement among the major labels to overlook minor similarities. An independent musician, on the other hand, can't claim the benefit of this agreement. Compare the Cold War-era state of mutual assured destruction, and see also
a short story by Spider Robinson.