Going from one forum to the next, sometimes people may find it difficult to find reliable and helpful individuals when posting code for review or to post code that others may find of interest that relate to retro console or computer development. NESdev already provides a wealth of tech info and competant individuals with its subjects that it caters toward.
...Would providing an extra development subsection forum regarding the software and hardware development of any computer or console 10 years of age or older potentially be useful in the NESdev forums?
Examples of these computers or consoles could possibly be: Atari 2600, Super A*Can, Playstation (PSX), ZX Spectrum, PC-98, Sega Game Gear, Nintendo Virtual Boy, Sega Dreamcast, TI-994a, etc...
Yes! Especially welcome if people wanted to do Atari, Sega, TI Calcs, Ect.
We need more good stuff anyways!
We also might consider a PC-Engine/TurboGraphix-16 subforum, But I have to also have to ask Tom (the PC-Engine dev specialist) to be admin if he would be able to.
I see where you want to go but if you look at the GB forum... It didn't fly for long.
If you really want to talk about anything, I guess the general forum is the place for that since there is no restriction, isn't it?
Banshaku wrote:
If you really want to talk about anything, I guess the general forum is the place for that since there is no restriction, isn't it?
I agree. Development for other retro platforms fits well into General Stuff.* If discussion of some other platform gets out of hand, I might realign GBdev and SNESdev into Other 8-Bit Platforms and 16-Bit Platforms, or perhaps 8080 Platforms and Other 6502 Platforms.
* At least it'd fit a lot better than repeated discussion of one's psychiatric issues.
I don't know about a new section, but I think I'd be OK with turning the GB forum into a general one. Hell, even the SNES forum is pretty much dead (a lot of it is just piracy-related questions), so I could see it being merged with the GB one to make the "Misc. Retro Dev" section. I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me though. EDIT: Ninja'd by tepples (kinda).
I'd love to see a pc-engine section.
Other system development would be cool, I guess. That's also allow for people to show off their non-NES work, and many other things. I'd be up for it.
Why was the SNES forum renamed "other 6502 dev" ?!?
There is no 6502 in the SNES but a 65816. It is a 6502 variant ok, but there is also many thread about the SPC700 in there... which has nothing to do with a 6502.
tepples wrote:
Banshaku wrote:
If you really want to talk about anything, I guess the general forum is the place for that since there is no restriction, isn't it?
I agree. Development for other retro platforms fits well into General Stuff.* If discussion of some other platform gets out of hand, I might realign GBdev and SNESdev into Other 8-Bit Platforms and 16-Bit Platforms, or perhaps 8080 Platforms and Other 6502 Platforms.
* At least it'd fit a lot better than repeated discussion of one's psychiatric issues.
Making the 'Other 6502 dev' forum is a smart way to consolidate things, but after thinking about it, it seems like the SNES really deserves it's own forum around here. SNES and GB both inherited of traits from the NES and are it's successors, so it seems fitting. One could easily play NES music on a GB, or run an NES program on SNES.
With that said, I think it would be pretty cool to have a forum that might attract posts related to any old computers, consoles, arcade games. Though of course a lot of these systems might have their own communities somewhere, but something interesting is bound to happen eventually.
Memblers wrote:
Making the 'Other 6502 dev' forum is a smart way to consolidate things, but after thinking about it, it seems like the SNES really deserves it's own forum around here. SNES and GB both inherited of traits from the NES and are it's successors, so it seems fitting.
And the NES inherited a bunch of traits from the ColecoVision. I was thinking broadening GBDev to include all 8-bit platforms with a CPU descended from the Intel 8080, especially those with a Z80 (Speccy, CV, MSX, SMS, Game Gear).
Oh, and the SPC700 is a lot more of a 6502 variant than some people might think. The opcode bits are just permuted, and I can prove this to you if I have an SPC700 opcode matrix handy.
Just don't put "8080" anywhere in the description. No Z80 coder thinks of the 8080 while they write code that looks nothing like 8080 code.
I think this is a great idea. There are several times I've wanted to post something like some info on Vectrex programming but didn't really want to put it in General.
The forum needs to keep the SNES part and make just another category that says "Other misc. development." I believe that'd be the best way to add it, and not screw over the SNES one.
I'm starting to understand that expanding the scope of the existing forums might not have been the best idea. But how would we limit the scope of Other Retro Dev? Just 8-bit main CPUs? That'd include PCE and exclude Genesis and PCs running MS-DOS, but it'd also technically exclude Intellivision and Apple IIGS.
If people want to discuss stuff, let them discuss it.
tepples wrote:
But how would we limit the scope of Other Retro Dev?
I simply wouldn't. Personally I think that even stuff that
looks retro but actually runs on modern hardware should be welcome.
tepples wrote:
* At least it'd fit a lot better than repeated discussion of one's psychiatric issues.
Please tell me that your not talking about me.
psycopathicteen wrote:
tepples wrote:
* At least it'd fit a lot better than repeated discussion of one's psychiatric issues.
Please tell me that your not talking about me.
It's a reference to
This Thread.
I'd just say add "Other System Development" or something to the other category.
tepples wrote:
I'm starting to understand that expanding the scope of the existing forums might not have been the best idea. But how would we limit the scope of Other Retro Dev? Just 8-bit main CPUs? That'd include PCE and exclude Genesis and PCs running MS-DOS, but it'd also technically exclude Intellivision and Apple IIGS.
I think it would work if we made the scope broad for consoles and computers by including a timeframe in which they were commercial. Then we can narrow down the content which users are able to post in the forum rules, for example: copyright protection circumvention, piracy, uninspired development requests, uninspired nostalgic blogging, and anything irrelevant and/or not useful to the current posts.
If the misc. retro development subsection grows to be biasing one particular console or computer, we could create a relevant section to its own by moving the most useful and active threads over.
Ok, let's do this already
If that's what people really wants, why not I guess.
So be it. Feel free to PM me with suggestions of what to move.