Is America losing it's population?

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Is America losing it's population?
by on (#69178)
With it's crime, suicide, sexism, abortion, etc. It would make sense that people here die more often than are born. The sexism part is really sad because in Europe, women are allowed to be seen naked in public and yet there is nowhere near as much sexual abuse in Europe as there is here in the US.

by on (#69179)
American media exaggerates this stuff.

by on (#69182)
o_O

sexism?

Women as a collective group have basically the most freedom they've ever had in the history of mankind.

And historically, women a generation or two ago fought for and got abortion to where it is now, against the wealthy white older male minister types. Nowadays, it's more equal along the gender line. It was an interesting conversation listening to this explanation from a lawyer.

As for sex crimes, look at what defines a sex crime here and there and let's compare apples to apples here. Let's also look at the percentage of prison population in general... The US is very willing to incarcerate.

Complaining about public nudity? Jeez. What kind of impetus even brought this topic up?

by on (#69183)
Dwedit wrote:
American media exaggerates this stuff.


So true. If you believe everything you see on the news to represent what is going on everywhere on a daily basis you would think the world is coming to an end. The truth is most "News" outfits are now grouped with the Entertainment outfits and news needs to grab people's attention. So they really latch onto crazy one of a kind stories or find a few odd incidents and try to make it seem like an epidemic.

by on (#69184)
exactly.

news as entertainment.

In the supermarket aisle, does anyone gravitate towards the paper talking about the second to last shuttle launch ever coming on November 1st?, or do we care about keeping up with the Kardassians and Snooki?

by on (#69187)
its true a lot of that is hype but the town next to mine held the murder capital of the nation title for a number of years so I have seen a bit of it and I have been shot at myself more than once. Although its been much better for a number of years and this title is now held by New Orleans if I remember correctly.

USA is not even close when is comes to most murders in a country. Sucks to be El Salvador
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

by on (#69190)
Is America gaining its apostrophe?

by on (#69192)
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USA is not even close when is comes to most murders in a country. Sucks to be El Salvador
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate


The only reason the USA is so high is because of DC and Puerto Rico (which are not even states!)

District of Columbia 24.0
Puerto Rico 22.5
Louisiana 11.8
New Mexico 8.7

by on (#69196)
its true that Puerto Rico is an unincorporated Territory and is only technically part of USA but the District of Columbia the nations capital otherwise know as Washington D.C most certainly is.

by on (#69198)
Dwedit wrote:
American media exaggerates this stuff.

European medias does too. I don't read american media so I can't compare, but they like to put as many scandals as possible everyday. In the end this ends up quite fun if taken to the 2nd degree.
Re: Is America losing it's population?
by on (#69200)
psycopathicteen wrote:
With it's crime, suicide, sexism, abortion, etc. It would make sense that people here die more often than are born. The sexism part is really sad because in Europe, women are allowed to be seen naked in public and yet there is nowhere near as much sexual abuse in Europe as there is here in the US.

What the heck.

If it is losing its population, it's because the birth rate isn't that high anymore since we don't all live on farms where you have lots of babies to work the fields. People aren't dying in the streets by the millions, it's just that a lot of people are deciding not to have kids.

However, you have yet to show any proof that America is actually "losing its population" in any significant amount.

Also, I think your statement about nudity across all of Europe is an extreme exaggeration. It's true that they're more open in that regard but you make it sound like people walk down the street naked all the time. Also, correlation =/= causation; the possibility that there is more public nudity doesn't mean that this is why there is less sexual abuse. (Is there less sexual abuse? Cite this data...?)

You might as well say that there are less guns in London because of all the nudity, it doesn't make any sense.

by on (#69208)
whicker wrote:
o_O

sexism?

Women as a collective group have basically the most freedom they've ever had in the history of mankind.

And historically, women a generation or two ago fought for and got abortion to where it is now, against the wealthy white older male minister types. Nowadays, it's more equal along the gender line. It was an interesting conversation listening to this explanation from a lawyer.



What about sexism against men? American men have a bad reputation of being perverts who find pleasure in raping women.

It is harder for me to ask a girl out because I have to be careful not to sound like I mean it the other way. You tell a girl you like her in a good way, and she mistakes it for you liking her in a bad way. Respecting a girl is considered disrespectful.

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As for sex crimes, look at what defines a sex crime here and there and let's compare apples to apples here. Let's also look at the percentage of prison population in general... The US is very willing to incarcerate.

Complaining about public nudity? Jeez. What kind of impetus even brought this topic up?


I'm not complaining about public nudity, just the stereotypical American male reaction to public nudity.

If some hot ass babe is walking naked outside, I'd enjoy watching her, but I wouldn't be interested in sexually harassing her.

by on (#69210)
http://open.salon.com/blog/jodi_kasten/2009/05/27/equal_rights_for_men

by on (#69211)
What are you talking about ? What is the point of this thread ?

If reputation is your concern, here in europe, people in north america have the reputation to be all fat and to eat at Mc Donalds all the time. Also the reputation to be fat asses who never do any sport and use their car to avoid walking like 15m and that don't give a damn about climatic and polution problems or whatever.

I don't know how true this reputation is, but that's it for negative reputations.
I don't think there is a reputation of them being pervert or whatever. What you say just don't make any sense to me.

by on (#69220)
Bregalad wrote:
What are you talking about ? What is the point of this thread ?

If reputation is your concern, here in europe, people in north america have the reputation to be all fat and to eat at Mc Donalds all the time. Also the reputation to be fat asses who never do any sport and use their car to avoid walking like 15m and that don't give a damn about climatic and polution problems or whatever.

I don't know how true this reputation is, but that's it for negative reputations.
I don't think there is a reputation of them being pervert or whatever. What you say just don't make any sense to me.



I get that from them British guys all the time. No, not everyone is fat. Far from it. XD Lol, I love telling those British kids on Xbox LIVE how if we "fat" americans didn't exist, they'd be speaking German! :roll: :lol:

Oh well. You'd better hope it's the dumb ones. 50% of the students in my high school, I couldn't see as hiring for a (ironic) fast food place. I couldn't do it. Talents? Yes everyone has talents, but there are very few legitament "smart" people here. :P Oh well.

by on (#69227)
This whole thread is one big personal-agenda-advancing race-to-the-bottom stereotype-fest, and no one even posted evidence to answer the title question. :roll:

http://www.census.gov/population/www/po ... tproj.html

by on (#69234)
According to this graph on the site, we're growing "highest."



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Look at 2010, We have a population of 310 Million so that's more or less 3/4 of the way between the high and middle population growths.

by on (#69236)
Can somebody explain the lowest/middle/highest lines?

by on (#69240)
Lowball, average, and highball projections.

by on (#69247)
tepples wrote:
Lowball, average, and highball projections.


Lowest, average, highest what? Possible population estimate? High class vs low class?

by on (#69250)
As I understand it: "Lowest" is an estimate with parameters in the model set to values that produce a low population. "Highest" is an estimate with parameters in the model set to values that produce a high population.

by on (#69622)
Well you have to factor in that the hispanic population in this country is exploding, and they in fact are the ones that are having the most kids. Caucasians are going to be a minority in this country within the next several decades, just search "caucasian minority" in a search engine. (Bloomberg and Associatedcontent(not press) are the first two hits on Bing). So while the population may rise, it is mostly minority populations. My city's population, which it is very close to Tampa, FL has risen very little over the last 20 years. Something else thats important to know that the birthrate in this country has dropped to only 1.43 , which can be found here:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/births.htm

it says 14.3 births for every 1000 population , which if you scale it to percentages, you get 14.3 / 10 = 1000 / 10 = 1.43 = 100 , which means we have 1.43 born for every 2 persons, which is a negative birthrate - a single couple on average does not propagate enough children to replace themselves if they both die. This means the population rise must be from immigration, and not birthrate increases. Europe has an even lower birthrate, which is said to be 1.3 per 100 persons, which can be found all over the place by searching "Europe birth rate 1.3"

by on (#69631)
Europe has even less? I was starting to think of Europe being some wonderful place where everything is better.

-Food that is actually healthy for you so you don't have to rely on starving yourself and working out in a jym for 4 hours just to look tolerable.

-Beautiful girls running naked outside.

-You can go outside and always find somebody (including naked girls) to hang around with, and not be stuck on the computer all day with nothing to do.

-The radio actually having good music, instead of playing rap nonstop.

by on (#69632)
psycopathicteen wrote:
-Food that is actually healthy for you so you don't have to rely on starving yourself and working out in a jym for 4 hours just to look tolerable.



I call stereotype! :P


Do you live in the US? Just curious....and if you do, how do you knew they have healthy food? XD Just curious.

by on (#69633)
65024U wrote:
psycopathicteen wrote:
-Food that is actually healthy for you so you don't have to rely on starving yourself and working out in a jym for 4 hours just to look tolerable.



I call stereotype! :P


Do you live in the US? Just curious....and if you do, how do you knew they have healthy food? XD Just curious.


Yes, I live in the US.

by on (#69656)
psycopathicteen wrote:
-The radio actually having good music, instead of playing rap nonstop.

You still listen to the radio, not NSF->MP3 conversions? My cousin has been playing the Hatris soundtrack on loop.

by on (#69687)
That birth rate statistic doesn't say what you think it does. It is just a raw X births per Y people, in 2007 alone. To figure the replacement rate, you have to consider the death rate for that year, which was 804 per 100,000.

Adjusting to match gives: 804/100,000 * (1/100)/(1/100) = 8.04 / 1000. That means for every 1000 people in the country in 2007, there was a net gain of 6, excluding migration. At ~300 million people in the US, that's roughly 1.8 million more people in the country than there were to start with.

The US has generally not dropped below the replacement rate, like say, Japan has.