Today I decided to spoil myself and bought an AV famicom on my way back home.
The first thing I saw when I tested the machine is that the video quality is better compared to the normal famicom. Another thing that I didn't expect and was surprised was that the audio quality was improved too. I didn't know the RF was impacting the sound that much.
Now back to the topic. After testing the gamepad, the so called dog bone ones, they are indeed better than my original famicom one (maybe it just because my unit is too old, who knows). But... After playing for a while, even thought they are better, they don't seems to match my good ol' toaster nes squarish pad I had in the past.
I remember them. The quality was better. The buttons and pad was better. The ergonomy was not (except the buttons) but the rest was good. The dog bones one are good but they feel cheap.
Am I the only one to feel that way? I miss them. But now that I have an AV famicom that you can plug the gamepad (big duh! for the famicom), I could always buy some toaster nes one someday. I should have never sold that brand new one I had.
I have a dog bone NES controller hooked up via a retro port to my "nesdev station" laptop...I think it's pretty nice. It feels just as solid, to me, as the original rectangular ones. I keep my original rectangular controllers with the NES itself though, gameplay feels truly retro when using those
It amazing, after so many years of mashing, how those things can keep working so well. That's quality.
I honestly like the square ones better, though most people would probably say dog bone. But it could be that I'm just used to the square ones.
The d-pad is softer on the dog bone ones, isn't it?
Best NES controller? SNES controller, possibly the ASCII pad. Make a SNES->NES controller adaptor and enjoy.
Ian A wrote:
I honestly like the square ones better, though most people would probably say dog bone. But it could be that I'm just used to the square ones.
The d-pad is softer on the dog bone ones, isn't it?
Actually, at least in the case of my dog bone, the d pad is firmer. I got my NES I think after it already went out of production, in 1994 or 95 (somewhere around there). And, I actually got a dog bone controller even later..so it may just be newer.
The dog bone controller is much more ergonomic, HOWEVER, the D-Pad on it is really bad. When playing Battletoads you REALLY need the square controller because with the dogbone, for example if you press right, you might acidentally end up pressing right+up or right+down without actually touching the up or down buttons (this applies to all directions btw).
The buttons are shaped "outies" instead of "innies" too. Whenever this is better or worse is a matter of preference, personally I don't care.
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Make a SNES->NES controller adaptor and enjoy.
And how do you do that if you don't have a dead SNES whose you can remove the controller ports.
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Make a SNES->NES controller adaptor and enjoy.
And how do you do that if you don't have a dead SNES whose you can remove the controller ports.[/quote]
may i suggest ebay.ch again?
nes extender cord + snes extender cord = nes->snes adapter + snes->nes adapter
hyarion wrote:
nes extender cord + snes extender cord = nes->snes adapter + snes->nes adapter
+ heat shrink tubing =
blargg wrote:
hyarion wrote:
nes extender cord + snes extender cord = nes->snes adapter + snes->nes adapter
+ heat shrink tubing =
this cable
It's too bad these aren't manufactured in quantity. Otherwise, I'd already be making NES programs that use the SNES Mouse.
It's too bad Nintendo didn't make the SNES controller backwards compatible with the NES officially. Yet they didn't so I'd rather not use a SNES controller for a NES game or vice versa.
Blargg, too bad 2 consoles have to be sacrified for this to be done. I have a NES that is not working, but I have only one SNES. Buying a second one just for that sounds idiot to me.
For the second time, you just buy a NES and SNES controller extension cable, cut in half, then splice wires together. You can buy those new for around $4 each.
oh sorry I didn't know that such extension cables existed.
tepples wrote:
It's too bad these aren't manufactured in quantity. Otherwise, I'd already be making NES programs that use the SNES Mouse.
You can always try to program to use the Subor mouse, though that's probably be effective only for emulators.
To answer your question, I recently got a dogbone and love it. Much more comfortable than the rectangle.
I've used my NES Max ever since it was new but my old Max is showing its age. I play with the dogbone more now. But when I go two player I usually let the other player use the dogbone since most people can't play well with a Max. They usually try to use it as if it were an analog stick.
The reason I hate the dogbone (other then the shorter wire I got because of me having the famciom one) is that the buttons are wrong. you see the buttons should not be like / they should be like \ because thats how your thumb goes....sure it LOOKS nicer if they do it / but it doesn't play very nice.
Yeah, the up-right diagonal is only suited to pressing buttons individually. Interestingly, the design of the SNES controller is a hybrid, though functionality-wise it's clear the up-left diagonal won out. The controller's two pairs of buttons are each arranged in an up-right diagonal, but the hardware mapping is in an up-left diagonal. That is, when you read the controller NES-style, you get Y and B rather than B and A, because those are the equivalent as far as the thumb is concerned.