OK, the battery (accumulator in fact) of my GBA SP is starting to REALLY run out, I think after freshly charger the barely holds barely 2 hours (with sound and light) because the led becomes red again, this is annoying and it will probably not become like before again (where I could charge once each 10 hours or something). Also the chrarging time is much faster, is is done in 30 minutes instead of 4 hours like before.
Anways is there any way to replace the battery or something ? Or should I just buy a DS ? But then in 3 years what will I do when my DS' battery will also fade out ?
Also by the way the headphone adapter is broken, only right channel works, and since have sound only in one hear is worse than anything I just play withotu headpones. I don't know if there is a jack on the DS or if the same adaptater is needed, tough.
Replacement batteries are $5-$15. Nintendo DS has a headphone jack.
Do your shoulder buttons still work? Mine have the ugly tendency to fail. I'm about to send my ds lite in for its second repair.
My R button broke when I accidentally swaped my SP with someone I will never see again. Just use ebay for all your broken problems like I do.
Have you tried the battery compartment on the back of the unit?
Dwedit wrote:
Replacement batteries are $5-$15. Nintendo DS has a headphone jack.
And no serial port, therefore no pokeymans.
Dwedit wrote:
Do your shoulder buttons still work? Mine have the ugly tendency to fail.
Is there something about Nintendo and shoulder buttons? Our family has had a Game Boy Micro and two original DS systems with at least one busted shoulder button. Perhaps it's because the shoulder buttons are the most vulnerable to shock when jostling the system itself around.
There are reports that if you have a screwdriver with a 3-prong head, you can clean out a shoulder button's mechanism and it will likely start working again.
dont forget the button placement is wrong for gba mode on the DS (I hate that someboady smart program a microcontroller to swap um)
replacement batterys are not hard to find still and when they do get hard to find outher 3.7v batters that charge in the same way (like the one for the DS if I am not mistaken) can be retro fited
anyway $5.10 replacement battery although they are backordered at the moment
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4371
there are also these witch some may find usefull although it need a psp charger cable or equivalint
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.7247 not bad for the price
The DS battery is the same, it just has (or is missing, keep forgetting which is which) a small notch in the plastic that can easily be cut off.
peppers wrote:
dont forget the button placement is wrong for gba mode on the DS (I hate that someboady smart program a microcontroller to swap um)
What do you mean?
I think he means he'd rather use Y/B instead of B/A (or allow them to be swapped, like Super Mario All-Stars or the Super Game Boy). It feels more natural to place your thumb across Y and B on a 4-button configuration, and most platformers over the past couple of decades have used that setup by default. Omitting such an option from the DS seems like a rather silly oversight.
If you read 16 times from the NES controller, you get buttons in this order:
Player 1: A, B, Select, Start, Up, Down, Left, Right
Player 3: A, B, Select, Start, Up, Down, Left, Right
If you read 16 times from the Super NES controller, you get buttons in this order:
Player 1: B, Y, Select, Start, Up, Down, Left, Right
Player 1: A, X, L, R, garbage*4
So NES A and B become Super NES B and Y, which is the basic layout that most games adopted.
The Game Boy Advance controller returns buttons in this order:
A, B, Select, Start, Right, Left, Up, Down, R, L, garbage*6
The Nintendo DS controller returns buttons in this order:
A, B, Select, Start, Right, Left, Up, Down, R, L, garbage*6
X, Y, garbage*4, pen down, lid open, garbage*8
So A stays A and B stays B, even though the average hand can more easily reach B and Y.
I guess I'll just try to find a replacement battery in a regular store, but I'll wait until my battery runs out even more because it's best using it to the bone.
I don't know if gaming shops sells such stuff, maybe I should just ask. If I don't find any maybe I'll just buy a DS, and if I really want to play the GBA that badly and the battery is dead, I'll have to switch batteries. Maybe I should also buy a GBC for very cheap as you can use normal batteries for it, and you can be sure it will work forever, unlike the GBA and DS where the battery needs to be replaced each so many years, and you can bet someday Nintendo will stop producting such batteries, and then the big pain will begin... Only GB and GBC games will still be playable.
Oh, and also most of my GBA games are RPGs, so A/B button on the DS is not a problem, since for RPGs the standard buttons are still A and B on 4 button config. B and Y are for platformers, and I currently have only one single platformer for the GBA.
Bregalad wrote:
Maybe I should also buy a GBC for very cheap as you can use normal batteries for it, and you can be sure it will work forever, unlike the GBA and DS where the battery needs to be replaced each so many years, and you can bet someday Nintendo will stop producting such batteries, and then the big pain will begin... Only GB and GBC games will still be playable.
Get the original GBA, it use normal batteries too
only problem there is no backlight.. so if you want that get afterburner kit too. And I personally prefer the old GBAs buttons to the NDS buttons.
Yes you are right, altrough used original GBAs aren't as common as used GBCs (but they should be still pretty common).
I don't like the idea to use original batteries, as ecologically this is a catastrophe, however if this is the only way to still be able to play my GBA games in 15 years then I'll do it. Maybe in the future nobody will have any usage of GBA SP, micro and DS because they all have faded batteries, and noone will produce compatible batteries, so used normal GBA will become very expensive and those f** games collectors will buy all of them, making them even more expensive, etc... I already see this catastophe coming from now, so I guess I'm gonna buy an original GBA before it's too late.
Also its a real shame that there is no "standard" li-on battery that each company could sold and be used in the electonics devices of each company. Bacause many li-on batteries are just different mechanically, but not really that diffent, and due to purely commercial basis each company has its own li-ion battery differnent from all other to be sure people buy the remplacement batteries from them. Also I wouldn't be surprised if someday the li-ion battries will becomes obsolete as opposed to another kind of battery, and that means no new batteries for devices, that means that most devices of the 2000-2010 years will become unusable (or at least won't be portable any longer) while all devices from 1980-1999 years will hironically still be perfectly usable.
Fx3 wrote:
peppers wrote:
dont forget the button placement is wrong for gba mode on the DS (I hate that someboady smart program a microcontroller to swap um)
What do you mean?
On the DS the actual button locations is wrong for GBA mode play
The biggest problem with the DS for me is that in GBA mode the button placement is wrong
Y should be B and B should be A
I would very much like a device witch can swap these buttons I believe a micro controller would be suitable for this so it can be easily switched back when is DS mode.
I have some half-baked ideas on how to detect gba mode if you’re interested. If someone is willing to write the program and choose an appropriate chip I would be willing to do the testing and assume the hardware risk involved. (I am quite adapt at hardware modification)
Fyi: Bregalad the store I linked to will get in stock before too long you can ask them about how long till they get some in and they should have a pretty good answerer for you. I don’t think you could find a better price
In 10-15 years someone'll probably manufacture supercapacitors designed for the GBASP/DS, so I wouldn't worry too much...
Bregalad wrote:
Yes you are right, altrough used original GBAs aren't as common as used GBCs (but they should be still pretty common).
I don't like the idea to use original batteries, as ecologically this is a catastrophe, however if this is the only way to still be able to play my GBA games in 15 years then I'll do it.
Right now, you can use a SLOT-1 flash card for the DS to
dump your GBA games to a microSD card, and then you can run the GBA games in emulation on a PC. There also used to be link cables that would connect a GBA's serial port to a PC's parallel or USB port, allowing the user to dump games that way.
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Also its a real shame that there is no "standard" li-on battery that each company could sold and be used in the electonics devices of each company.
But there is a standardized nickel metal hydride battery: 1.2 volts, AA or AAA size. Both Duracell and Energizer make them.
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Bacause many li-on batteries are just different mechanically, but not really that diffent, and due to purely commercial basis each company has its own li-ion battery differnent from all other to be sure people buy the remplacement batteries from them.
It's not due purely to vendor lock-in. For one thing, lithium ion batteries don't have to be rectangular prisms; they are moldable to fit in the unused case area of a handheld device.
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Also I wouldn't be surprised if someday the li-ion battries will becomes obsolete as opposed to another kind of battery
atari2600a is right: Supercapacitors are the future. Caps don't last as long as batteries do, but they do take burst charges, such as the power output from regenerative braking, better than batteries. The Nintendo Twist might have a kinetically charged capacitor power supply, much like
shake torches.
Li-ion batteries cannot be sold as it (as opposed to other less common kind of batteries) due to the fact they need a special charaging supervisor circuit, according to wikipedia.
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atari2600a is right: Supercapacitors are the future. Caps don't last as long as batteries do, but they do take burst charges, such as the power output from regenerative braking, better than batteries. The Nintendo Twist might have a kinetically charged capacitor power supply, much like shake torches.
Yeah, but currently I guess the most supercapacitors can hold something like 40 fahrrad, that means that they can discharage to 63% of their value on a resisor of 1 ohm in 40 seconds wich is rather good as 1 ohm is nothing. However I guess there is no way to tell what the future reserve to us, probably a lot of good things and a lot of bad things too...
When it comes to the manually charged torches this rocks as you can go without being afraid the battery runs out, however it would be a lot of work to charge a GBA like this if you want to play a decent amount of time, plus this tends to decharge no matter if the light is on or not, so you'll have to always pause your game to recharge. But maybe in the future the new coming gameboys will be so efficient when it comes to consumming electricity that this will be possible. Imagine a gameboy that charges itself as the player shake it when in frustration due to loss in the game...
Bregalad wrote:
When it comes to the manually charged torches this rocks as you can go without being afraid the battery runs out, however it would be a lot of work to charge a GBA like this if you want to play a decent amount of time, plus this tends to decharge no matter if the light is on or not, so you'll have to always pause your game to recharge. But maybe in the future the new coming gameboys will be so efficient when it comes to consumming electricity that this will be possible. Imagine a gameboy that charges itself as the player shake it when in frustration due to loss in the game...
That's kind of what I alluded to when starting the rumor of "Nintendo Twist". It is rumored that the next handheld will have a pivoting screen (480x272 or 272x480 depending on what the game prefers), with touch across the whole surface, and/or motion-sensing capabilities (like the Wii Remote and the WarioWare Twisted Game Pak). See
mock-up.
I always thought the next step after Nintendo DS was
Nintendo BS 
