hello all,
i want make my crisis force card but i can find any donor cartrige ,somebody know a donor cartrige ?
thank
hello bregalad just the power pack
Hey Bregalad, you've been advertising the PowerPak left and right, haven't you? XD
But yeah, AFAIK all the carts with that mapper are japanese.
tokumaru wrote:
Hey Bregalad, you've been advertising the PowerPak left and right, haven't you? XD
Probably because I'm tired of seeing weekly new threads from people asking which donnor cart they need for a game or how they do the mod, often obscure japanese games using obscure mappers.
These threads are irrelevant to NESdev, and unless this is to make dev-cards intended to use for developement, I find all those threads annoying and counter-productive.
It's true, there have been a ton of threads lately that are essentially, how do I build a bootleg of <insert game here>. It's somewhat disturbing if there really are alot of people out there butchering carts just to build tons of bootlegs. Particularly when such a nice option like the PowerPAK exists.
Or the imported cart with a converter.
A converter doesn't apply a translation patch.
Crisis Force doesn't need a translation. It's a shooter. People will make any excuse to want to bootleg Crisis Force opposed to buy the import cartridge because as I recall it's uncommon and priced fairly high.
sorry but this forum is the link of romlab right ? when you arrive to romlab what you see in the nes Section (cartmodding) but if you are tired Do not answer that simple
MottZilla wrote:
Crisis Force doesn't need a translation. It's a shooter. People will make any excuse to want to bootleg Crisis Force opposed to buy the import cartridge because as I recall it's uncommon and priced fairly high.
your wrong you can find patch to romhacking
Well, even if you're gonna use translations, nothing better than using the original cart as a donor, it even comes with the correct label.
idrik wrote:
MottZilla wrote:
Crisis Force doesn't need a translation. It's a shooter. People will make any excuse to want to bootleg Crisis Force opposed to buy the import cartridge because as I recall it's uncommon and priced fairly high.
your wrong you can find patch to romhacking
I can't be wrong in a matter of opinion, it's my opinion. I understand that a translation exists for the very little text in the game. But it is my opinion that such is rather pointless and not being able to read that text takes nothing away from the gaming experience.
well but i don't think my pal nes take this 60 pin cart
I understood well that you do not want to help me and indeed to keep your knowledge so precious for you sirs good night
idrik wrote:
well but i don't think my pal nes take this 60 pin cart Wink I understood well that you do not want to help me and indeed to keep your knowledge so precious for you sirs good night Wink
With an adapter, it would. As for your second statement, it won't bring you any help said that way.
The game mapper is a VRC4, a special mapper that is only available in japan. this mean there is no possible donor cart for this game, period. The only way is that the game mapper is hacked to work on another one. This mean the only possible donor cart becomes a japanese game.
Second you said you have a PAL nes. Since this mapper works fine only on a NTSC machine, you may have problem with the original game because it sync to the specs of the NTCS nes. There is good chance it will not work properly on a Pal nes.
And as for using it on the power pak, there is no VRC4 mapper available so you're out of luck (read thread for gradius II on powerpak).
Bregalad wrote:
These threads are irrelevant to NESdev, and unless this is to make dev-cards intended to use for developement, I find all those threads annoying and counter-productive.
Sorry for being rude to the main poster but today I more than agree about this statement. This is nesdev, a site for nes development. For me (personally), making a repro of a game that is available is bootlegging.
Banshaku wrote:
Sorry for being rude to the main poster but today I more than agree about this statement. This is nesdev, a site for nes development. For me (personally), making a repro of a game that is available is bootlegging.
And I think why some of us particularly don't like some of the recent posts is when a specific game is named and then the question asked, how do I bootleg it? It's blatantly asking for help bootlegging. Not even a half-assed attempt at hiding it.
Would it be time for another rules topic? Or should I just stretch
the Parodius AUP's piracy clause to cover "how do I bootlegged cart" questions?
I don't know, making repros shouldn't always be seen as a bad thing. Importing games can be difficult and expensive, so you can't blame someone for trying other ways of playing a game that isn't available in their area. I mean, when there isn't a legal alternative, it's not easy to define what's illegal...
This guy's attitude is annoying though. It's not like we're hiding knowledge or anything (we don't do that here) it's just that there simply isn't a non-japanese game that can be used as donor. We can't make stuff up.
arrest hypocrisy sirs svp how much of you make the same thing many games never went out in France and even less in French it is the only to repair this injustice to European which are has every time the last wheel of the coach, I have for proof the price of it shameful of games ps3 on average 70€ the game it is a shame finally in brief I leave you between you and wish you good continuation .
please don't take it for provocation because it have no means the case I understood well that only original is functional because the mapper is specific and is necessary to hacker the rom to turn it compatible with another mapper or buy a famicom and the original game
Since you only have a pal Nes, your best bet will be to find a way to get a famicom and buy the original. This is the only way for that game. A famicom is more or less between 1000/3000 yen depending where you get it. Crisis force can sometime be found loose for 700 yen but usually will go between 1200/2000 yen. those are the usual street price in japan.
You may be right that many game didn't game out it Europe and Bregalad can confirm it but that game didn't came out in the US too so in that case you cannot use that as a defense.
From the way you write and the word you use (svp) and location you mentioned, you seems to be french native but I could be wrong. If this is the case, be careful the way you write your comment since they may be provocative and you may not be aware of it. Maybe it was not your intention too so just be careful on how you phrase them.
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Il y a aussi des gens qui parlent en francais sur ce forum alors si tu n'est pas certain, tu peux toujours le demander en francais dans le forum international. Fait juste attention de la facon que tu ecris parce que certaine phrases qui on ete ecritent precamment avaient un ton provocant.
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arrest hypocrisy sirs svp how much of you make the same thing many games never went out in France and even less in French it is the only to repair this injustice to European which are has every time the last wheel of the coach, I have for proof the price of it shameful of games ps3 on average 70€ the game it is a shame finally in brief I leave you between you and wish you good continuation .
This is true, but has nothing to do with the original topic.
We were just saying that no non-japanese donor card can do what you wanted, and on a side note I just got annoyed by the amount of thread made to bootleg carts. I admit I made myself a couple of bootleg carts too, but that was out of common bad games. If you want to play that game, all you need is an emulator and you know what. It's really that easy, and with NTSC filter or HQ2x filters, the graphics will look the same / better than on a TV with real hardware so no excuse. You can't say as an excuse it's illegal, becuase bootlegs are definitely MORE illegal. Nobody is keeping any knownledge private or anything. (PS : tepples if you are afraid this message would get nesdev in danger feel free to delete it)
And if you wanted to develop your own VRC4 NES game and asked for a donnor cartridge, that'd be another story. But that don't seem to be the case.
About VRC4,
Loopy just made it today available. This would mean the game should work on a powerpak. Case closed.
idrik wrote:
sorry but this forum is the link of romlab right ? when you arrive to romlab what you see in the nes Section (cartmodding) but if you are tired Do not answer that simple
Wow, this is really not cool. I googled romlab and was shocked as to what I found.
This is the site.
http://nintendoallstars.w.interia.pl/romlab/romlab.htm
Seems a mostly benign, kind of ugly set of pics and guides to rom hacking and repros from the NES to Genesis to Lynx.
Click on forum at the top menu and then click the forum button in the middle. See anything familiar?
Nesdev administrators need to know about this.
EDIT: Oh man, and a link at the bottom of
this random page, too. It could be all over that site. Linking with a proper explanation is one thing but you don't treat a completely separate, unwitting forum as an extension of your own site.
Holy shit! They simply link here like if it was their forum! O_O
I bet they probably won't read sticky topics either.
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Holy shit! They simply link here like if it was their forum! O_O
This explains that. (what a bunch of *** ****)
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I bet they probably won't read sticky topics either.
Yes I'm afraid, but at least they can't say they're not warned.
I don't see what the big deal is, so he linked here... His page has been up forever and he himself is not detracting from the forum. I blame all the people (perhaps) irresponsibly spreading interest in "repros".
You can use TMNT 1 or TMNT 2 as a cheap famicom donor to make Crisis Force. You will need to track down 2k ram chips though as neighter have WRAM on board and Crisis Force needs it. Also you will have to build\use a famicom adaptor to ge tthe board from 60 to 72 pins. As for your PAL\NTSC issue, well your on your own there.
You could use one of those goemon gaiden game which usually contain ram. When you're lucky, you can get them for 100/200 yen. But after the time you put on it, the eprom, converter etc, it may cost you as much as the original game. So I still think the powerpak is the better option.
But if you really like that game and that's the only game you're aiming for, it will be cheaper to buy the original one in the end.
ROMlab is Siudym's site. It's been around for a long time, and yeah that site looks annoying but it is some pretty good original content. Having it link to here isn't all that bad, just another avenue for people to discover the site. Though hopefully with more interest than just cart rewiring, but I figure everyone has their own approach to doing stuff with their NES.
Sure, linking here isn't a problem, what I found weird is that they do it like if it was their forum.
At first I didn't understand when the guy asked if this was ROM Lab's forum, but now it makes sense.
Right, yeah it would be better if it said "NESdev forum" or otherwise indicated that it's an external link.
@Banshaku and Bregalad Thank you the next time I shall post in French in the section international, maintaining with years my English are not very good it's possible
nintendo2600 wrote:
You can use TMNT 1 or TMNT 2 as a cheap famicom donor to make Crisis Force. You will need to track down 2k ram chips though as neighter have WRAM on board and Crisis Force needs it. Also you will have to build\use a famicom adaptor to ge tthe board from 60 to 72 pins. As for your PAL\NTSC issue, well your on your own there.
Thank you for this beginning of answer it gives me one idea would have you the correspondence between 60 pins and 72 pins?
thank you tepples